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Tonight on DATELINE NBC:   June 6, 2008

It's one of the first things parents teach their kids, almost as soon as they can talk: "If you're in trouble, call 911." When there's a medical emergency, an accident, or a crime-in-progress, 911 operators become our lifeline.

In tonight's story, a veteran police detective's daughter -- who'd been kidnapped -- did what she'd been taught. She called 911. So did her husband. So did horrified witnesses. They all thought help would be on the way. They were wrong.

Correspondent Dennis Murphy on the desperate search to save "The Detective's Daughter."

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From Cathy McNa,

Port Orange, Fl.

June 9, 2008

 

Hank,
 
I use to work with Detective Jake Goff and while watching Dateline the other night and how badly the dispatcher handled the phone call was horrendous.  Jake is no longer working for the Charlotte County Sheriff's Office and while I was listening to the tapes unraveling on television I recognized the dispatchers voice and being a seasoned dispatcher knowing that the female kidnapped was one of their own her suspension was not enough.  You don't yell something across the room to another dispatcher.... as this makes you assume that they heard you and when there is that much chaos in the room with everyone looking for Jake's daughter, you put in the additional notes and it comes updated when entered.  If this had been done the Deputy at Toledo Blade and US 41 would have gotten the car and poor Jake's daughter would still be alive.  I couldn't sleep that night thinking of poor Jake Goff and his beautiful daughter and her family that no longer has her here because of a very crucial mistake by communications.  The Deputies were all out there along with Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, North Port Police and Florida Highway Patrol and the line of communication was lost because someone assumed that another person heard them from across the room.  I am sure that Sheriff Davenport has his reasons on why she only received suspension but, knowing him for so many years it appears that this one has slipped right through the cracks.  He was obviously shaken while on National television but, re-training of a dispatcher that has been there for ten years is not going to change the outcome of this whole sad situation.  My heart goes out to Jake Goff and his whole family as I met his daughter when she was just a child and I cannot think of anything more horrible than your own agency going against him where he felt the need to quit and the dispatcher is still working there.  Other agencies will fire you if you look cross eyed, call in sick too many times, etc. and in this case, a murder is not deserving of termination.
 
Cathy McNa

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POI Hank comments:

Cathy, thank you for that insight.

Wasn't there a system in place

so the communication person

could have internally transmitted

the crucial information

over to the dispatcher,

instead of having to

yell across a room? A yell

that apparently was not heard.

 

Also I have been wondering

if RCC is a public agency or a

private company.  If it is a

private company then I would

think that requests for

information, statistics, or

documents from RCC

would not fall under

freedom of information

rules.  Can anyone tell

me?

I would love to see the

paperwork done by RCC

supervisors that

fall into the category of

"inspection and

control".

 

--- hank

June 9, 2008 at 8:34 Pm

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Cathy McNa replies

June 10,  2008

All Law Enforcement communications centers have the capability to update any and all calls that come into the center.  From experience I know that Charlotte County has one of the best Communications training programs and each and every dispatcher is trained fully in every phase of the job.  They start out with being a call taker and trained by one person for as long as it takes for them to become efficient, then they move onto learning the fire and ambulance channel and again, this is done by one certified training officer.  Lastly, they go on to the Law Enforcement radio, again with one certified training officer.  Sometimes the training can last up to two or three months before they are allowed to graduate to dispatching.  They are marked everyday with their daily progress and this is kept in their files for the length of their employment.  When updated notes are put into a call an alert sign comes up so that the dispatcher can read it and pass it on to their deputies.  At this point, I don't know if Charlotte County was patched into the other law enforcement radios so that one person gave out all pertinent information.  Hope this answers your question....
 

---Cathy

 

 

 

 Feb. 25, 2008

From the unidentified person who

made some complaints to the

editor/publisher of POI's fire/police radio log entries.

In reference to not getting a reply fast enough for you, here is my reason: I was working and e-mail is not a top priority at times.

If Mr. Cox says its okay to write what you do, fine for POI.  It may be petty to complaint to POI but I expressed my opinion and concern by my right of free speech. If you don't like my comments then do not publish them.

-END-

POI HANK REPLIES:

I liked your comments.  Comments like yours

allow me to understand what some of my readers

might be thinking.  On the contrary,

I prefer to publish opinions that might disagree

with my own.

I respected your speculation that the POI web

site might be violating HIPAA and the Electronic

Privacy Laws, but I have found no evidence

of that being the case.

I thought your comments about not liking

Cathy McNa's personal comments,  were

petty, but you are entitled to your opinion.

I think you can appreciate that in consideration

for your right to free speech, I did publish

your opinions on the POI web site.

The only serious complaint I have with you,

is that you did not provide the section

in the Electronic Privacy Laws which

you thought I might be violating.

But I did give your thoughts

  serious consideration

and research, and have come to my own

conclusion about your concerns.

Perhaps you might be confusing

statements made by others with the right

to free speech, which were published

and did not agree with your worries.

But they did not come from POI Hank,

and the people who made such statements

are adequately identified.

Take care, and write again.

--- hank springer

& & & & & & & & & &

Feb. 25, 2008 at  9:14 AM

A POI reader had written to the publisher/editor of this POI web site,

with some complaints about the information contained in

his published radio log entries.

As this reader writes " .......  Also, some of what you publish is public record or open to hear on a scanner but some things are not allowed under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 and its revisions.  ...."

 

POI Hank has done research on this issue and has not

come up with any restrictions on publishing what is heard

on  police/fire radio channels.

This morning I spoke with Mr. Jim Cox,

Supervisor for RCC,

who knows of know restrictions

except that personal information should

not be published.

POI does not publish names of citizens who might

be named in police/fire communications on

their public safety channels,

and so from all sources contacted and reviewed

POI Hank has decided to resume publication of

the Police/Fire radio log.

 

You can see comments, guide lines and issues

relating to publication of information learned

from the public safety radio channels,

on POI's 

PUBLISHING PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS

  web page.

 

The person who had complained to POI

has not responded to follow up

requests by POI to help

it find the exact provisions

which she/he thinks

prohibits POI from publishing

"certain things" on its web site.

(See updated response before this section

which does not specify the section

of law that POI might be violating.)

 

POI is still awaiting replies on this issue

from two individuals at www.poytner.org

 

Thank you all for your patience and help

regarding this matter.

-- hank springer

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 Feb. 25, 2008

From the unidentified person who

made some complaints to the

editor/publisher of POI's fire/police radio log entries.

In reference to not getting a reply fast enough for you, here is my reason: I was working and e-mail is not a top priority at times.

If Mr. Cox says its okay to write what you do, fine for POI.  It may be petty to complaint to POI but I expressed my opinion and concern by my right of free speech. If you don't like my comments then do not publish them.

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POI HANK REPLIES:

I liked your comments.  Comments like yours

allow me to understand what some of my readers

might be thinking.  On the contrary,

I prefer to publish opinions that might disagree

with my own.

I respected your speculation that the POI web

site might be violating HIPAA and the Electronic

Privacy Laws, but I have found no evidence

of that being the case.

I thought your comments about not liking

Cathy McNa's personal comments,  were

petty, but you are entitled to your opinion.

I think you can appreciate that in consideration

for your right to free speech, I did publish

your opinions on the POI web site.

The only serious complaint I have with you,

is that you did not provide the section

in the Electronic Privacy Laws which

you thought I might be violating.

But I did give your thoughts

  serious consideration

and research, and have come to my own

conclusion about your concerns.

Perhaps you might be confusing

statements made by others with the right

to free speech, which were published

and did not agree with your worries.

But they did not come from POI Hank,

and the people who made such statements

are adequately identified.

Take care, and write again.

--- hank springer

& & & & & & & & & &

 

 

 

Feb. 25, 2008 at  9:14 AM

A POI reader had written to the publisher/editor of this POI web site,

with some complaints about the information contained in

his published radio log entries.

As this reader writes " .......  Also, some of what you publish is public record or open to hear on a scanner but some things are not allowed under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 and its revisions.  ...."

 

POI Hank has done research on this issue and has not

come up with any restrictions on publishing what is heard

on  police/fire radio channels.

This morning I spoke with Mr. Jim Cox,

Supervisor for RCC,

who knows of no restrictions

except that personal information should

not be published.

POI does not publish names of citizens who might

be named in police/fire communications on

their public safety channels,

and so from all sources contacted and reviewed

POI Hank has decided to resume publication of

the Police/Fire radio log.

 

You can see comments, guide lines and issues

relating to publication of information learned

from the public safety radio channels,

on this web page.

 

The person who complained to POI

has not responded to follow up

requests by POI to help

it find the exact provisions

which she/he thinks

prohibits POI from publishing

"certain things" on its web site.

 

POI is still awaiting replies on this issue

from two individuals at www.poytner.org

 

Thank you all for your patience and help

regarding this matter.

-- hank springer

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Feb. 21, 2008 at  5:52 PM

A POI reader has written to the publisher/editor of this POI web site,

with some complaints about the information contained in

his published radio log entries.

As this reader writes " .......  Also, some of what you publish is public record or open to hear on a scanner but some things are not allowed under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 and its revisions.  ...."

Until POI Hank researches

the complex Electronic Communications Privacy Act provisions,

we are suspending publishing fire and police radio log entries.

If there is any one knowledgeable to help me with my research,

please

help me.

-- hank springer  ,  poimages@cfl.rr.com

READ FOLLOW UP INFORMATION ON THIS ISSUE

DOWN BELOW ON THIS WEB PAGE.

 

 

 

From Cathy Mcna,

Feb. 22, 2008

Hank, I hope you will print this as I have never intentionally given an address except in the case of what I thought to be a dangerous situation to the neighbors and they should be aware of that fact.  These people don't realize that I spend a lot of time doing to the fire/police log each and every day and go out of my way to find out the facts on certain calls.  I am also a volunteer and don't expect to be criticized for such trivial material as a medical facility call.  If people find my column offensive they should write to me directly as I have given an e-mail address especially for that purpose.  I have been talking to law enforcement and fire officials over the past few days and they are all avid readers and have not found anything that I put into the fire/police log to be anything but interesting and sometimes entertaining.  If I did anything to offend someone, I apologize but that was not my intent.  I only state times and facts.  Addresses of apartment complexes are given but not the apartment so where did I do something wrong where I have been asked to suspend my column until all avenues are investigated?  Once again, my e-mail address is as follows: cpuggys@bellsouth.net and feel free to contact me at anytime.  I will answer what I can and also respect any and all comments to improve my radio log.

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POI HANK RESPONDS

Thank you Cathy for explaining your position and intentions
for the web site.  I find your radio log entries extensive and precise.  If there ever is a mistake, it is my responsibility as an editor to spot it and remove it.  You are doing a fine job,
and people have written to us telling us how much they enjoy your radio log entries.

We all like your aside personal comments about meeting people and what you may be doing on a daily basis.  The complaint from the person who wrote to me, shows some petty annoyances he/she has when he/she tells me that
he/she doesn't care to know
when you have to walk your
dogs or what you are doing or
have done.  But we like to know.

In fact, the pettiness of the writer complaining about
aside comments that usually preface your radio log entries,
takes away from any serious
comments he/she might
have had about the legality
of publishing a radio log.

I feel sure the person is wrong
about the HIPAA rules applying to me,
because  both my
wife and daughter are
very familiar with HIPAA rules,
having themselves been
office managers for doctors.

I am still researching the Electronic Privacy Laws
and will complete my
research by Monday.
Nothing that has been sent
to me, or that I have already
read, tells me that
police/fire radio transmissions
cannot be repeated and referred to by the public.

I have received complaints
and petty comments before
and we who get published
know that we are not
immune from such petty
attacks.  Especially when
we ourselves criticize
governmental agencies,
or quasi/governmental agencies.  It goes with the job.

Please don't consider my
decision to suspend the
radio log entries
as something meant to
censor or stop your
work.  It was a publisher's
decision for the sake of
the web site, and to make
time to research an issue
which might have legal implications for the POI web site.

Cathy, take the weekend off
from radio log work,
and thank the POI reader/writer
for giving us a chance to
explain our concerns
about publishing sensitive
information.  We are doing
a service for the public
community, which by all
accounts appreciate and
want to know what is
going on in their neighborhoods.

On the opposite side of
criticism by us,
I would like to at this time
point out that I have
asked to meet with the
City Manager and the
Director of RCC,
to find out for publication
about all the superior work
RCC provides in comparison
to a cheaper VCSO
communication provider.
Mr. Parker said they would
be glad to sit with me
and explain the benefits
of having RCC as the city's
communication provider.
In the last correspondence
I had with Mr. Parker,
I asked him to tell me
when a date and time
would be convenient for
them.  I have not yet
received a reply.

I have asked the writer/complainer
to tell me where I might
find the provision that
prohibits me from
publishing "certain things"
on my web site.  He/she
has not yet replied as of
Feb. 23, 2008 at  8:05 am

Unless you hear from me,
let us return to publishing the radio log entries on Monday,
Feb. 25, 2008, if you have the time.

Thank you for all your help,
and interest in keeping
the public informed.

Sincerely,
Hank Springer
Feb. 23, 2008 at  8:06 am

 

 

 

Feb. 22, 2008 at 9:42 AM

Preliminary information from people in the news media field

indicate to me that there is no provision in the Electronic Privacy Law

which prohibits POI from publishing what is heard on the police/fire radio channels.

However, I am going ahead with research on the law over this weekend.

I have asked the person who advised me

 that I might be violating the Electronic Privacy Law

to inform me of where I can find and read that particular rule for myself.

I have not received a reply yet, as of Feb. 22, 2008 at 9:45 AM.

I find this a convenient time to explain POI's self imposed guidelines and standards

when reporting what is heard on the police/fire  channels.

Through out the day and this weekend, I will report on this web page,

information sent to me from various people about this issue,

and I will expand on POI's standards and self imposed rules

about publishing what is heard on police/fire radio channels.

-- hank springer   poimages@cfl.rr.com

 

 

 

Feb. 22, 2008

FROM RC,  PORT ORANGE LIFE.COM

www.portorangelife.com

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BS Hank,

This law is to protect us from them. not them from us. lol

 

(2) “oral communication” means any oral communication uttered by a person exhibiting an expectation that such communication is not subject to interception under circumstances justifying such expectation, but such term does not include any electronic communication;

 

Electronic communication is computer and hackers. i.e, e-mail.

It is well known that police and fire communications are listened to. If they didn't want to be listened to they have the technology to make it not heard like Flagler County. It is like everything else bro. Interpretation. Not only that but the city of Port Orange would send a cease and desist order before any criminal charges would be filed.

 

 

Some people think they have it all figured out. There is no harm in what you do and you usually use restraint in hurting the innocent. Part of the problem in this country is people sticking there nose in other peoples biz. Whoever sent you this needs to go find a way to support the American people instead of telling us what we can't do. There are websites that broadcast police and fire calls live.

This is Orlando police dept.??????? So how is what you are doing illegal? Keep on Keepin on bro.

RC

PortOrangeLife.Com

WWW.PORTORANGELIFE.COM

Editor

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COMMENTARY BY POI HANK;

Police and Fire Departments know that it is permissible

for citizens to listen to their radio channels, and as such

do not have an expectation for privacy.

It was and probably still is, illegal for citizens in Great Britain

to listen to police radio frequencies, and I have heard

of governmental agencies driving around at times

with special antennas on their vans to locate people

who might be tuned into police radio channels.

A radio frequency or channel, that is scrambled,

as is the FBI communication systems expect for their

extra effort and expense of denying listening access to

the general public, an expectation of privacy.

I would expect it is illegal to monitor FBI frequencies or

channels, if one had the capabilities of overcoming

the scrambling techniques.

& & & & & & &

I have no interest in providing a live feed of a police

radio channel on my web site, because

I would not want to be part of broadcasting sensitive information

 relating to a police investigation which is not only on going

but might involve follow up investigations.  For instance,

drug and narcotic cases.  Generally, we do not

repeat drug and narcotic incidents on POI web site

since more than likely the initial contact by police

with witnesses, victims or defendants, will most probably

lead to other people and circumstances.  We do not want

to impede narcotic investigations.

However, if there is violence associated with a drug, narcotic

incident, I might publish such a police transmission,

in the interest of providing some beneficial purpose

for people living in that area or block,

especially if they have children who go to and from school,

or play on the block.  That kind of an incident would

demand consideration by me, if I were to publish it.

hank springer, Feb. 22, 2008 at  10:21 AM

 

 

 

 

MORE FROM WWW.PORTORANGELIFE.COM

REGARDING PUBLISHING WHAT IS HEARD ON POLICE/FIRE RADIO CHANNELS

 

Feb. 22, 2008

FROM RC,  PORT ORANGE LIFE.COM

www.portorangelife.com

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Also what is his/her opinion of what is NOT allowed? He/She seems to know everything so tell him/her to tell us what is and is not. All you publish is what is heard so what is he or she talking about? Law enforcement is well aware that the radio is not secure and that is why they use cell phones and I-call. and have computers for secure transmissions. The highway patrol have encrypted radios for security because they do not want you hearing them but even with that you can still listen with a 400.00 crystal installed in your scanner. Anyone with 100.00 that reads your site can go to radio shack and purchase a scanner and hear what we hear. So what is illegal about it? Tell this person to prepare a legal suit or proof to what he says or STFU.

RC

& & & &

POI Hank responds:

The person who sent me an e mail did not identify himself/herself.

In General, there were certain aspects of

our radio log which the person did not like.

The writer did not seem to be ordering me

to stop publishing what we hear on

the police/fire radio channels,

but was advising me that I was allowing sensitive

information to be published which might

embarrass some individuals.

One complaint was that we published a

medical call to 740 Dunlawton Ave.,

where a person was having a bleeding rectal problem.

That address is not one of a family residence,

but is a professional building with doctors' offices,

and so in no way were we publishing what

might be sensitive to a particular patient or

family.  We never publish names,

unless press releases come to us.

I am of the opinion that it is might be

somewhat useful for the community

to know what kind of injuries or medical

conditions might be prevalent in the area.

Perhaps rectal bleeding is of no concern

to the community, unless you and I

happen to know of friends and family members

perhaps of a significant large number,

who are experiencing sudden rectal bleeding

problems.  You know, an epidemic,

but alas it is a long shot as a reason

for public service to community.

But, as I understand our governmental

agencies and medical professions,

we seem to learn about a significant

increase of medical problems, sometimes

way too long after the fact.

I do try to not publish embarrassing

medical conditions when the call is associated

with a family residence or location.  Many

are not reported.

The person who had complaints

about what POI publishes in radio logs

mentioned the HIPPA laws.

I have already responded and told

that person that my understanding

is that HIPPA laws apply to Governmental

Agencies and Medical Professions,

and do not apply to the News Media

or citizens.  But, I think I stated my position,

that we do try to unnecessarily report

patient conditions which might embarrass,

unless we see some possible community

purpose to know.

I also like to portray the kind of

medical conditions and emergencies

that our fire rescue and EVAC respond

to, who do an excellent job

of giving us medical attention when we

most need it.

A radio log such as ours,

shows the pulse of life in Volusia County.

Of course some times, the pulse

is high and perhaps distasteful to know about.

If so, change the channel and go to another

web site.  The police/fire radio log web page

on the POI web site, is the most visited

web page among the 92 POI web pages,

after the Home Page.

I calls are Individual radio calls, person to

person on a radio channel set aside

for such use.  Most agency radios

cannot listen into this private conversation

between one office and another.

I do have a radio that tunes into

such a channel, and listening to it

is not violating any law.  I do not

publish what might be heard,

since I do preserve the purpose of

such a radio channel, and because

most information on that channel

I would not want to be part of

publication to the general public.

Many radio transmissions on I calls

involve an investigation that is on going

or pending, and POI will not publish

such sensitive information, in order

not to impede a police investigation.

 

In a later commentary I will speak to the

issue of publishing POI images of

the faces of victims of accidents, etc.

and to the issue of publishing names of

juveniles.

 

I have asked the person who has complained

to advise me of a particular section of the

 Electronic Privacy Act which I can refer to.

As of now, the person has not responded

to my request.

--- hank springer  Feb. 22, 2008 at  11:10 AM

 

 

 

 

Feb. 21, 2008

From Craig E. Young, Port Orange, Fl.

Hank, the idea that you are violating the  Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 is ludicrous.

The only possible way for you to do that would be if you heard, say a neighbor, talking on his cell phone or cordless phone on your police scanner, and you published that conversation on POI.  And yes, I realize that sometimes you can pick-up such conversations on a scanner, in fact you probably hear such things quite a bit, but I've never seen you publish those conversations.  Other than that, there's absolutely nothing unlawful about what you are doing.

 

ps

 

There are some articles on the web were people have prosecuted under this Act because they bought scanners for the specific purpose of spying  on their neighbors by listening-in on  their phone calls. However, there isn't one case that I can find, of a retired police officer who spends his time listening to his local fire and police channel and reports what they are doing. And I don't think there ever will be. 

 POI HANK COMMENTS:

At one time, I had radios that
could pick up every frequency being used out in the spectrum.  That included, very low frequency communication between Navy bases and submarines (unreadable because
of scrambling techniques)
and cordless and mobile cell phone
frequencies.

The cordless telephone frequencies I think are now digital and coded,
so that ordinary receiving radios
would not be able to listen in
on them any more.

I believe that is also the case
for cell phones now, where
they too are digital and coded
and unreadable unless one
takes the extra steps of
installing equipment to encode
or unscramble the cell tower phone
mobile phone calls.

There was a time when
radio shack would sell cordless
phones and mobile phones
and tell the customers that
no one could listen to their
conversations.  Well, it was
against the law, but in years back,
in the same stores where this
assurance was offered,
one could buy a radio receiver
which would receive cordless
phone conversations and
mobile phone conversations.
I don't think that is the case any more.

--- Hank,  Feb. 22, 2008 at  12:28 PM

 

 

 

FEB. 21, 2008

A POI READER IS HELPING HANK DO SOME RESEARCH

ON ANY POSSIBLE LAW WHICH MIGHT PROHIBIT

POI FROM PUBLISHING A POLICE/FIRE RADIO LOG WEB PAGE.

No luck finding case law yet,

but I found a blog out of Seattle

that publishes scanner traffic on a regular basis.

 

 

 http://www.police-scanner.info/live-police-scanners.htm

Live Police Scanner Audio Feeds

http://www.police-scanner.info/live-police-scanners.htm

 

Welcome to our police scanner audio feed page. Here is where you will find links to live police and fire scanner audio feeds from across the U.S. New feeds are added once a month. Do you operate or frequent a scanner feed? Email us the URL address here

Last Updated: January 27, 2008 ~  Next Update: March 2008
124 Scanner Feeds Available!
(5 new feeds added, 2 dead feed removed, & 0 feed URL
's corrected)

Interested in broadcasting your own scanner feed?
 See our Police Scanner Information Depot for online tutorials.

http://www.police-scanner.info/live-police-scanners.htm

 

 

POI HANK HEARS

ON THE POLICE/FIRE RADIO CHANNELS

Feb. 24, 2008

This section today is provided

with comments to illustrate

the safeguards POI installs in

radio log entries.

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12:31 pm:  Holly Hill, 1xxx fifth st., male fled from a fight or disturbance.  male is wanted on several warrants.  air one en route to help search for the suspect.

(POI does not provide a description of a wanted suspect,
nor the suspect's name, if known by the police.  POI would not want some partially informed citizen to act on information that might be outdated. -- hank)

 

 

 

The following e mail request for info was sent to Poytner

on Feb. 23, 2008

==============================

Feb. 23, 2008 at  10:56 AM EST

From Port Orange Images
Photo Magazine On Line
www.portorangeimages.com  
Hank Springer, Publisher/Editor
poimages@cfl.rr.com
386 852 3178

 

Are there any legal prohibitions

 in publishing on a web site

information learned

from listening to police and fire


radio channels or frequencies?

 

 

 

Mario Joseph Mosesso

15 Years of Age

951 Tall Pine Drive, Port Orange

Arrested for armed robbery of a gas station in Port Orange

Image provided by POPD

Feb. 21, 2008

THIS PRESS RELEASE CAN NOW BE FOUND ON POI'S 

Administration Port Orange Fl Police  web page.

===================================

POI'S GUIDELINES FOR PUBLISHING INFO ABOUT JUVENILES

As I understand the law in Florida,

a governmental agency cannot publish the names

of juveniles unless they are defendants in felony crimes.

POI is very sensitive about incidents and cases

pertaining to juveniles.  Unless a misdemeanor crime

or less committed by a juvenile is especially

noteworthy or anti community,

I don't think POI will publish the names of such juveniles

who have been arrested.

POI in its images, takes care to block out the faces of any faces

of juveniles who have been arrested,

unless there is good reason for POI to publish the images.

However, POI can publish the names of juveniles

and their images if it wishes, having no legal prohibitions

It is permissible to take pictures of small children, minors, etc.

in public areas.  POI is aware of the sensitivity of

such actions, knowing that parents are rightly concerned

about who are taking pictures of their children

and the photographer's intentions.

 

 

POI HANK HEARS

ON THE POLICE/FIRE RADIO CHANNELS

Feb. 23, 2008

This section today is provided

with comments to illustrate

the safeguards POI installs in

radio log entries.

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2:24 PM:  PO:  In the area of the Triangle Motel,
report of a gun shot. 
(It is possible that reporting police activities at or near
business and apartment complexes might be detrimental
to the financial prospect of such businesses and apartment complexes.  It is not the intention to hurt any business finances, but notwithstanding is reported simply
as police activity or investigation in a certain area.)
2:27 PM:  Officer on scene thinks the noise was fire works
coming from a certain near by house on Orange Blvd., and
an investigation is proceeding.

 

 

POI HANK HEARS

ON THE POLICE/FIRE RADIO CHANNELS

Feb. 22, 2008

This section today is provided