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Man will not live without answers to his questions.
--  Hans J. Morgenthau

 

Once we realize that imperfect understanding is the human condition, there is no shame in being wrong, only in failing to correct our mistakes.
--  George Soros

 


Thinking is only a process of talking to yourself.
--  Source Unknown

                                 

The truth only irritates those it enlightens,

but does not convert.


--  Pasquier Quesnel

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Abortion Foes Tell of Their Journey to the Streets

....Together, these street activists make up an assertive minority of a few thousand people within the larger anti-abortion movement. Neither the best financed nor largest element in the mix, they are nonetheless the only face of anti-abortion that many Americans see. Indeed, persistent provocation is their defining attribute: day after day on street corners from California to Massachusetts, they stand like town criers, calling to women walking into abortion clinics, or waving graphic signs as disturbing as they are impossible to ignore.

Their ranks are more infused with emotion — they would say commitment — than top-down discipline.

Ziad Munson, a sociologist at Lehigh University who has interviewed hundreds of abortion opponents, said street protesters rarely moved into other areas of the movement and tended to work alone or in smaller groups. Even in cases when they form large and influential organizations, it is sometimes difficult to get beyond the culture of passionate dispute....

more at http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/10/us/10abo
rtion.html?_r=1&emc=tnt&tntemail0=y

 

 

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Editorial

zNew York Times

 

The Courts and Privacy

....Love Stuff, whose target clientele is women ages 32 to 52, was sued by Hoover for violating the state’s Anti-Obscenity Enforcement Act. The store challenged the law’s constitutionality. The trial court upheld the law and Love Stuff appealed, invoking a line of United States Supreme Court cases recognizing a privacy right in sexual activity. These included Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965, which affirmed the right to buy contraception, and Lawrence v. Texas in 2003, which struck down Texas’s sodomy law by relying on a liberty right under the 14th Amendment. ...

more at http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/o
pinion/02fri2.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

POI Hank comments:

I suspect there are a lot of teenagers

and old lonely men masturbating in their

bed rooms.  That should all be illegal,

and those violators should go to jail.

Onward -  Christian soldiers!  LOL -  hank

 

....A Look at Christianity, Through a Buddhist Lens

......His focus here is on what he calls “the big stuff”: What does it really mean for Christians to profess belief in an almighty “God the Father” personally active in the world, or in Jesus, “his only-begotten Son” who saved humanity through his death and bodily resurrection, or in eternal life, heaven and hell?

However much he tried, Mr. Knitter found that certain longstanding Christian formulations of faith “just didn’t make sense”: God as a person separate from creation and intervening in it as an external agent; individualized life after death for all and eternal punishment for some; Jesus as God’s “only Son” and the only savior of humankind; prayers that ask God to favor some people over others. ...

more at http://www.nytimes.com:80/2009/10/10/
us/10beliefs.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y

 

 

 

 

 

..... there is a marvelous anecdote from the occasion of Russell's ninetieth birthday that best serves to summarize his attitude toward God and religion. A London lady sat next to him at this party, and over the soup she suggested to him that he was not only the world's most famous atheist but, by this time, very probably the world's oldest atheist. 'What will you do, Bertie, if it turns out you're wrong?' she asked. 'I mean, what if--uh--when the time comes, you should meet Him? What will you say?' Russell was delighted with the question. His birght, birdlike eyes grew even brighter as he contempalated this possible future dialogue, and then he pointed a finger upward and cried, 'Why, I should say, 'God, you gave us insufficient evidence.'
--  Al Seckel

 

 

A religious man is a person who holds God and man in one thought at one time, at all times, who suffers harm done to others, whose greatest passion is compassion, whose greatest strength is love and defiance of despair.
--  Abraham J. Heschel


All earthly delights are sweeter in expectation than in enjoyment; but all spiritual pleasures more in fruition than in expectation.
--  Francois FTNelon

 

 

 

 

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Religious Life Won't Be Same After Downturn

Recession Has Drained Financial Resources Of Many Congregations, Seminaries

Posted: 2:45 pm EDT September 28, 2009Updated: 2:59 pm EDT September 28, 2009

Organized religion was already in trouble before the fall of 2008. Denominations were stagnating or shrinking, and congregations across faith groups were fretting about their finances.

The Great Recession made things worse....

more at http://www.wftv.com/f
amily/21139455/detail.html?treet
s=orlc&tml=orlc_8pm&ts=T&tmi
=orlc_8pm_1_07000209282009

 

 

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Liberals' attack on Christian businesses expanding!

 
September 25, 2009 05:29 PM EDT
 
The initial 2009 House hearing on the anti-faith Employment
Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) went pretty much as I expected...

"Expert" witness after expert witness spoke in favor of this
bill which puts Christians on the wrong side of the law. In
fact, just one witness was called to speak against the bill.

    Even worse, one Representative spoke of requiring
    businesses with as few as five employees to comply!

That means ENDA could impact millions more Christian businesses
than had been anticipated!
As I noted to you earlier this week,  legal analysis concludes
that even non-profit organizations and ministry groups can be
forced to comply with ENDA - opening them up to costly legal
challenges and charges of discrimination by homosexuals,
lesbians, bisexuals, and transsexuals. ...

more at http://www.gather.com/viewArtic
le.action?articleId=281474977826642

 

 

 

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Bishop Spong

...Alfred North Whitehead conceived of God as a Process. Paul Tillich experienced God as the Ground of Being. The problem is that we use the language of time and space to give form to an experience and a reality that is not bound by or within time and space. When I use the word "God" I am not talking about a being. I am describing that sense of transcendence that I believe I have encountered within time and space. I believe I experience God as life fully lived, as love wastefully given, as being completely realized. I cannot tell you or anyone else who or what God is. I can only describe my experience. I may be delusional. Lots of religious people are, but I don't think so. ...

more at  THE RIGHTEOUS RELIGIONS
 

 

 

Engage Hate or Ignore It?

Brad Hirschfield » How should people of faith and good will respond to hate groups such as Westboro Baptist Church?

http://newsweek.washingt
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    Bruce Wilson from Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada, writes:

    I am deeply troubled. I cannot picture God, a supreme Santa Claus, who lives above the sky. I cannot see this as a male entity, as a judge, as a creator of all the universe. This image of a jealous, angry and vengeful entity is repugnant to me. This leaves me with no one to pray to, no one to give me spiritual comfort, no one to love me unconditionally (except my dog). Why do you keep referring to a God when, over the many years that I have I have read your books and weekly bulletins, you have said the very things about this entity that I quote above?

     

    Dear Bruce,

    Thank God for your dog!

    Maybe you should see your inability to picture God as a Santa Claus above the sky as a step into maturity and wholeness. Now you need to look at the immaturity of your prayers. The last thing most of us can surrender in our spiritual journeys is the parent figure God who hears our petitions and who loves us unconditionally. However, there are other ways to conceptualize God.

    Alfred North Whitehead conceived of God as a Process. Paul Tillich experienced God as the Ground of Being. The problem is that we use the language of time and space to give form to an experience and a reality that is not bound by or within time and space. When I use the word "God" I am not talking about a being. I am describing that sense of transcendence that I believe I have encountered within time and space. I believe I experience God as life fully lived, as love wastefully given, as being completely realized. I cannot tell you or anyone else who or what God is. I can only describe my experience. I may be delusional. Lots of religious people are, but I don't think so.

    I join the mystics in saying that I think I am part of what God is. God lives in me, loves through me and empowers me to escape that drive to survive that is in every living thing in order to give my life away. That is the Christ role and I think it is also the role that his disciples are called to model.

    So I am drawn by God beyond my boundaries and I perceive that God becomes real when I enter into the task of living and loving and being. This means that it doesn't occur to me that I am alone with no one to whom to pray. This makes me rather a deeply infused, God-intoxicated human being who no longer has the words to describe the God in who I live and move and have my being, but it does not even occur to me to doubt the reality of that which I experience, but can never define. I hope this helps. Hug your dog for me.
     

    – John Shelby Spong

     

     
     

     

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    Find the following issues at

    http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/index.html

    Should religious charities discriminate?

    Faith based aid is unconstitutional.

    Should public schools teach religion?

    Have the tax-exempt groups behind the 'Values Voter Summit'
     gotten too cozy with the Republican Party?

    The Vatican is promoting American-style "Catholic Secularism"
    to encourage reason in the public square.

    Two U.S. court cases involving children
    point to the continuing challenge of protecting free exercise of religion.

    Go to  http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/index.html

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    ...While atheists should be delighted at their new rationalist allies among Catholics, the right-wing in Catholic America should be scared. The Cardinal, like this pope, have fully embraced the "liberal state" in ways that differ from the articulated positions of John Paul II, whose Polish experience probably colored his perspectives on this topic. The healthy secularism promoted by Pope Benedict and the reliance on rational thought in the public sphere run counter to the theocratic impulses of Protestant Evangelicals who use bible quotes to justify political decisions. It will be interesting to see if Catholics (e.g. Rick Santorum) who have hitched their wagons to Evangelical rejection of "secular humanism" side with the Vatican's embrace of liberalism and secularism.....

    more at http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/catholicam
    erica/2009/09/catholic_secularism_vs_atheistic_secularism.html

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    . . . .The IRS rarely revokes a non-profit's tax status for political activity, but it does happen. After the 2004 elections, the IRS examined 110 cases, revoked the tax-exempt status of five organizations and proposed revocation for two others. After 2006, the IRS examined 100 cases but didn't issue any revocations. The agency hasn't issued a report for the 2008 elections.

    In 1999, the IRS denied the Christian Coalition tax-exempt status because of its pro-Republican Party activities. In a 2005 consent decree, the Coalition was granted tax-exempt status under a different section of the tax code that enforces restrictions on its voter guides.

    After the 1999 IRS ruling, The Charleston (W.V.) Gazette denounced religious conservatives: "For decades, so-called 'religious right' groups have pretended they're religious, not political. But in reality, they're a far-right appendage of the Republican Party ... In fact, some of their goals are totally political, without any discernible religious connection."

    Ten years later, has anything changed?

    more at http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/undergod/2009/09
    /values_voter_summit_or_gop_convention.html

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    US: Ousted Baptist Leader Loses Bid
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    A preacher who went to prison for stealing millions of
    dollars from the National Baptist Convention USA has lost
    an election to lead the group again.

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/us/11brfs-OUSTEDBAPTIS_BRF.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y

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    US: Ex-Priest Challenges Abuse Conviction on Repressed Memories
    By KATIE ZEZIMA and BENEDICT CAREY
    What defense lawyers call a "not generally accepted"
    science is the basis of their appeal of Paul R. Shanley's
    case to the highest court in Massachusetts.

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/us/11priest.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y

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    International / Americas: Fight Nights and Reggae Pack Brazilian Churches
    By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
    A growing evangelical movement in Brazil is attracting
    young people by adopting their culture.

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/15/world/americas/15evangelicals.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y

     

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    New York Region: St. Joseph, Superagent in Real Estate
    By PETER APPLEBOME
    Owners trying to sell their homes in a tough market are
    turning to Catholic tradition and burying statues of St.
    Joseph for help.

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/nyregion/17towns.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y

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    International / Asia Pacific: Pakistan Rights Groups Seek Answers on Christian's Death
    By WAQAR GILLANI and SABRINA TAVERNISE
    A Christian man detained on blasphemy charges was found
    dead in his jail cell on Tuesday in eastern Pakistan. Human
    rights groups said he had been tortured.

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/world/asia/17pstan.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y
     

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     . . . . The intellectual revolution that started with Copernicus and traveled through Galileo, Newton, Darwin, Freud, Einstein and many others has had an enormous impact on the religious tradition of the west in both Judaism and Christianity. We have also in both traditions been dealing with critical biblical scholarship for about 200 years. That scholarship, while welcomed by many, has also served to create a fundamentalist backlash in parts of Christianity and Judaism. We have certainly seen evidence of this in the political arena, where the religious right has been very vocal in America in the fight to restore prayer to the classrooms of public schools, to resist the teaching of evolution, to oppose sex education and to keep people like Terri Schiavo alive well after anything resembling real life had long departed. . . .

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    Business / Media & Advertising: John T. Elson, Editor Who Asked 'Is God Dead?' at Time,
    Dies at 78
    By WILLIAM GRIMES
    Mr. Elson's 1966 cover article about new approaches to
    thinking about God caused an uproar, but it was an example
    of his serious coverage of ideas.

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/business/media/18elson.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y
     

     

     

     

         
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    Deb McCollister from Nebraska writes:

    Militant fundamentalism in any family of faith seems to threaten our world. Readers of your newsletter are aware of Christian scholars who examine long-held assumptions. Can you tell us about penetrating scholarship in other faith walks, study that examines history while seeking meaning and deeper truths?

     

    Dear Deb,

    A very good question. The intellectual revolution that started with Copernicus and traveled through Galileo, Newton, Darwin, Freud, Einstein and many others has had an enormous impact on the religious tradition of the west in both Judaism and Christianity. We have also in both traditions been dealing with critical biblical scholarship for about 200 years. That scholarship, while welcomed by many, has also served to create a fundamentalist backlash in parts of Christianity and Judaism. We have certainly seen evidence of this in the political arena, where the religious right has been very vocal in America in the fight to restore prayer to the classrooms of public schools, to resist the teaching of evolution, to oppose sex education and to keep people like Terri Schiavo alive well after anything resembling real life had long departed.

    In the less developed and less well educated parts of the world, religion serves a variety of purposes. It gives hope to the hopelessness of the poor and downtrodden. It links people with their ancestral past. It helps them deal with the radical insecurity of human existence. When threatened by challenging insights into the origins of these faith traditions, many religious people who are unable to embrace or to process new religious ideas turn defensive and become both rejecting and fundamentalist. There is not as yet a tradition of radical religious scholarship in Islam that would call into question the way fundamentalist Muslims today use the Koran to justify violence. In the world of Buddhism and Hinduism I find today that the intellectually elite simply walk out of religion into secularism. Religion therefore becomes more and more the activity of the unlearned. It is therefore more and more likely to resist change, which makes modernizing that religious system all but impossible.

    I am convinced that my religious heritage points me to truth that no religion in and of itself can envision. I do not believe that secular non-belief is the only alternative to being religious, but it takes hard work, deep understanding, rich dialogue and a willingness to embrace vast amounts of fear and insecurity to reach this conclusion. I can testify, however, that to me it has been well worthwhile. As a witness to this truth let me quote a retired bishop who said, "The older I get the more deeply I believe, but the fewer beliefs I have." I think that is where I am and I believe that is where all religious systems will have to go if they want to live in our 21st century world.

    Change must come, however, from within the religious system itself. It can never be imposed from outside. So you and I, Deb, must work within the faith of our fathers and mothers. I have found my journey into the depths of Christianity to be the most exciting adventure and the most affirming experience of my life. I invite others to journey with me into the unfathomable mystery of God and life and being.
     

    – John Shelby Spong


     


    New This Week in A New Christianity for a New World

    The Origins of the New Testament
    Part I: Introduction

     

    I launch today a series of columns that will appear regularly over the next twelve to eighteen months. As I always do in this column, this series will augment the essays that are time sensitive and that seek to illumine contemporary issues through my theological lens. Last week's column on the health care debate is a case in point.

    The purpose of this unfolding series is to take you, my readers, deeply into those books that constitute the New Testament. There are twenty-seven in number and together they form the volume that arguably has been the most influential and shaping piece of narrative writing in the history of the world. The earliest book of the New Testament is probably I Thessalonians, generally dated around the year 51 CE, while the latest is probably II Peter, generally dated around the year 135 CE. The influence of this book, while always powerful, has been both positive and negative. On the positive side it is clear that the institution called the Christian Church, which grew out of these twenty-seven books, has inspired quite literally millions of people in many ways. Most of the great universities of the world were begun as part of the Christian Church's commitment to knowledge and, in particular, to impart to people the saving knowledge of the sacred scriptures. Most of our healing institutions, from hospitals to hospice, arose out of that Christian sense that every human life is of infinite worth, which carried with it the compelling need to alleviate suffering insofar as it is possible. Most of the great art of the ages, at least up until the 17th century, has as its content scenes from these twenty-seven books. These art treasures are of such immense value today that for the most part they are stored in the world's greatest museums as a constant source of enrichment for the people. Most of the great music of the ages, at least up until the dawn of modernity, was an attempt to put the primary themes of the New Testament into the indelible sounds that we today still recognize and sing. One thinks of the St. Matthew Passion and the St. John Passion by Johann Sebastian Bach and of the Christmas Oratorio, "Messiah" by George Frederick Handel as familiar and much loved cultural treasures. One cannot understand the history of the Western world or explore these cultural artifacts without becoming deeply aware of the impact the New Testament has had on the life of our civilization.

    There is, however, also a dark side of the New Testament that must be faced and lifted beyond the stained glass accents of antiquity into full consciousness? Start your free trial subscription today to read this and future issues in The Origins of the New Testament series.

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    International / Europe: Faith Conquers Fear of Swine Flu for Fans of Napless Patron
    Saint
    By ELISABETTA POVOLEDO
    A singular announcement colored the annual celebration of
    St. Januarius: You can kiss the reliquary, Cardinal
    Crescenzio Sepe told the excited crowd. Know that every
    proper hygienic sanitary precaution has been taken.

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/world/europe/21iht-naples.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y
     

     

     

     

    US: Monsignor Testifies in Clergy Abuse Case
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    The monsignor said that Cardinal Roger M. Mahony ordered a
    subordinate to delay reporting claims of sexual abuse by
    clergy members to the police until the priest in question
    could be defrocked.

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/us/20church.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y

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    Christian Convert Declares Belief On YouTube

    see video at   http://www.wftv.com/news/20967607/detail.html?tr
    eets=orlc&tml=orlc_4pm&ts=T&tmi=orlc_4pm_1_03000209172009

    Cathy D., Port Orange, Fl.

    started reading "The Shack".

    William Paul Young: A Look Inside 'The Shack"

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYvjRiun3MA

     

     

    Op-Ed: A precarious moment in Catholic-Jewish relations

    NEW YORK (JTA) -- America’s Catholic bishops recently approved two new documents that strike at the very heart of a trusting relationship between Catholics and Jews.

    The first paper reintroduces the idea that Catholics can use interfaith dialogue as a means to invite Jews to Christian baptism.

    The second removes a catechism teaching that God’s Covenant with Moses and the Jewish people is eternally valid. This profound change, affirmed by the Vatican, raises for many Jews the specter of a possible return to such odious concepts as supersessionism and the teaching of contempt, which have caused Jews irreparable harm over the centuries.

    These new developments are the latest in a series of troubling reversals in the relationship since the summer of 2007, and have some in the Jewish community seriously reassessing the conditions for continuing the dialogue.

    How did we get to this point?

    The transformation of the Catholic-Jewish relationship began with Nostra Aetate (Latin for “In Our Time”) adopted in 1965 at the Second Vatican Council. This historic text laid the foundation for a new positive relationship and declared that the Jewish relationship with God endured.

    The Vatican followed up with guidelines, issued in 1974, stating that Christians “must strive to learn by what essential traits Jews define themselves in the light of their own religious experience,” and urging dialogue with a view toward “mutual understanding and respect.”

    In November 1980, Pope John Paul II, speaking in Mainz, Germany, affirmed that Jews are the people “of the Old Covenant, never revoked by God.” He called Jews “the present-day people of the covenant concluded  ...

    more at  http://jta.org/news/article/2009/09/13/1007817/op-ed-
    -precarious-moment-in-catholic-jewish-relations

     

     

     

     

    A British film about Charles Darwin has failed to find a US distributor because his theory of evolution is too controversial for American audiences, according to its producer.

    Creation, starring Paul Bettany, details Darwin’s “struggle between faith and reason” as he wrote On The Origin of Species. It depicts him as a man who loses faith in God following the death of his beloved 10-year-old daughter, Annie.

    The film was chosen to open the Toronto Film Festival and has its British premiere on Sunday. It has been sold in almost every territory around the world, from Australia to Scandinavia.

    However, US distributors have resolutely passed on a film which will prove hugely divisive in a country where, according to a Gallup poll conducted in February, only 39 per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution.

    Movieguide.org, an influential site which reviews films from a Christian perspective, described Darwin as the father of eugenics and denounced him as “a racist, a bigot and an 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder”. His “half-baked theory” directly influenced Adolf Hitler and led to “atrocities, crimes against humanity, cloning and genetic engineering”, the site stated.

    The film has sparked fierce debate on US Christian websites, with a typical comment dismissing evolution as “a silly theory with a serious lack of evidence to support it despite over a century of trying”.

    Jeremy Thomas, the Oscar-winning producer of Creation, said he was astonished that such attitudes exist 150 years after On The Origin of Species was published.

    “That’s what we’re up against. In 2009. It’s amazing,” he said.

    “The film has no distributor in America. It has got a deal everywhere else in the world but in the US, and it’s because of what the film is about. People have been saying this is the best film they’ve seen all year, yet nobody in the US has picked it up. ...

    more at  http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/09/13/film-about-charles
    -darwin-cant-find-a-distributor-in-the-united-states-because-of-creationists/

     

     

     

    September 9, 2009

    Some creationists—religious fundamentalists who believe God created distinct species of plants and animals and who challenge evolutionary theory—are touting belief in the Loch Ness Monster.  ...

    more at http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blog/creationists_tout_nessie/

     

     

     

    12pm (ET)
    Approx. 1 hr. 3 min.
    Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design
    Stephen Meyer

    POI offers the following:

    Eugenie Scott vs Stephen Meyer on Intelligent Design

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFhMxAsMDvk

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    US: Michigan: Archdiocese Layoffs
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    The Archdiocese of Detroit plans to cut its staff by nearly
    30 percent as it grapples with a $14.5 million operating
    deficit.

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/us/04brfs-ARCHDIOCESEL_BRF.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y

     

     

     

     

    One of my POI readers ends his e mails with the following

    adage.  I don't think he means it for me, but I thought I would respond

    to the symbolic cross waving .

     

    "In God We Trust" and "One nation under God"
          If you don't like it then get out of America

     

    POI HANK COMMENTS:

    Which of the hundreds of Gods, do you trust?

    The Christian God I would suppose,

    and thus those of the Jewish faith,

    who do not worship Jesus, and do not put trust in your God,

     should leave

    and go to Israel?  Is this the America you

    feel so patriotic about?

    Let's face it, your beef is not with those of

    religions,---- any religion will do, but you

    dislike the atheists when you get into their

    faces, rejoining about separation of Church and State.

    Is it really all about God, or is it about boosting your

    religion to a political prominence, in order to influence

    legislation like the blue laws we had up in New York,

    when on Sunday, you couldn't find a drug store open

    to get cough medicine or an aspirin for your sick kid?

    That was called respecting the Sabbath.

    I suspect that

    some of the religious people love their religion and

    church more than they love God.

    Jesus said to pray in a closet, but I guess it

    really doesn't matter what He said,

    because no one can see how holy they are in

    a closet.  Aren't you suppose to be praying

    for us, instead of telling us to get the hell out of

    this nation? 

    Christopher Hitchens speculates that religion will never

    go away, and  feuds among the religious might even

    bring this world to an end.  So, what!  The real world

    is in the world hereafter, right, Christian?

    Why can't you pray in Church?  If you want to go around

    saying Merry Christmas, you won't get arrested, although

    you have made it seem that you would be persecuted for it.

    But as I often point out,

    why don't you say "Holy Christmas"?

    Why do I have to tell you all this.? Where are your religious

    leaders?  Do they go along with all this nonsense about

    how much Christians are persecuted in this nation?

    What are you doing, playing the victim game?

    When someone won't let you go to church on Sunday

    to practice your religion, then let me know.

    Get out of my face, or I'll sig the devil on you,

    and lead you into temptation!   lol -  hank
     

     

     

     

    The Hour: God Is Not Great

    Bestselling author Christopher Hitchens says religion ruins everything.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YPmt8TUoX4

     

     

    The Hour: God Is Not Great

    Bestselling author Christopher Hitchens says religion ruins everything.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YPmt8TUoX4

     

     

    International / Africa: Rwanda: Pastor on Trial in Finland in '94 Killings
    By REUTERS
    A former Rwandan Baptist pastor is accused of participating
    in the 1994 Rwandan genocide.

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/02/world/africa/02briefs-Rwanda.html?emc=tnt&tntemail0=y

    Times/Herald video:

     

    Charlie Crist and the Jesus Plate

    Gov. Charlie Crist tells reporters Monday, April 27

    that he supports two proposed license plates that use religious imagery

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA6AsvFm79Y

     

     

     

    THE GREATER TRUST IN GOD BANK

    8 29 09 American greed greater ministries.

    Video segment from CNBC

     

    http://www.motionbox.com/videos/7a98d4bf1113edcaf5?affiliate_name=aol

     

     

    Health / Health Care Policy: Some Roman Catholic Bishops Assail Health Plan
    By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
    Some Roman Catholic bishops who had supported health care
    reform are now speaking out against it because of concerns
    over abortion and alarms about "rationing."

    Full Story:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/28/health/policy/28catholics.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y
     

     

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    Did God Give Madoff Cancer?

    Despite denials by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, stories continue to circulate that Bernie Madoff has cancer. Sadly, but not surprisingly, more than a few people have suggested that he is getting what "he deserves" and that this is his "punishment from God". Such comments, and the theologies which support them, while viscerally satisfying for many, actually make God very small. They imagine a God whose frame of reference is no larger than our own, and whose definition of Justice is no more complex.  ...

    more at http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/brad_hir
    schfield/2009/08/did_god_cause_bernie_madoffs_c.html

     

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    All human life is here,

     but the Holy Ghost seems to be somewhere else.


    --  Anthony Burgess

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    If our faith delivers us from worry, then worry is an insult flung in the face of God.
    --  Robert Runcie

     

    Jesus is coming   -    Look Busy

     

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    We sacrifice the intellect to God. --- Ignatius Loyola

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    I am a man of one book.

    --- Thomas Aquinas.

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    Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously,

    and accepting both of them.


    --  George Orwell

     

     

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